Scoopz, I am tempted to abandon my readership of this site after reading your Olympic All-Star team. Dany Heatley? DANY ****ING HEATLEY?!?!?! He was an absolute joke in these Olympics. I've never seen a lazier skater in my life. His defensive play was atrocious. All he does is float around with his stick waving in the air waiting for someone to load the cannon. He was the worst player on the ice in the gold medal game.
Scoopz, I know you love looking at goals and assists... but come on!He had the most uninspired 7 points I've ever seen. He was one of only 3 players to finish the tourney without a positive +/- rating, along with Jumbo Joe and Bergeron. Anybody can win a goal- mouth scramble, even this bum. I'm sick and tired of this guy being mentioned as one of the best players in hockey. This is done by people who read his stats the next day instead of watching the game and seeing the continued incompetent play all over the ice by Heatley.
Did you not see Jonathan Toews this tournament?? He was awesome all over the ice. Finished tied for the Olympic scoring lead and ran away with the plus/minus lead. More importantly, he was the most consistent player every game for Canada and stepped up when asked. How can you leave this guy off?
Why don't you just throw Ovechkin on there? He's the best player in the world isn't he? He came through when asked in the big game right? Wait a sec, no he disappeared in the big game like he has his whole career. That doesn't matter though, cause media and fans alike look at the G and A columns and don't watch hockey anymore. The guy hasn't won anything because he doesn't know how to feed a team. It's his show, all the time. Who cares if I stay on the ice for 3 minutes straight, I'm Alex f***ing Ovechkin! Oh the other team scored because I'm too tired to backcheck? Who cares, I'm the face of Russian hockey. I'll score later in the game in a solo effort and it won't be my fault if we lose.
Fans and media have to cut up "under-achieving" Canadians all the time to sell newspapers and look hockey-smart in bars. I don't care if Ovechkin and Heatley can shoot 100 mph, that isn't what hockey is all about, they're overrated. I don't expect anyone to agree with me on these points, I just want people to start noticing how guys like Heatley and Ovechkin are always washing their hands of their respective teams failures, and guys like Crosby step up in the clutch. I'll take Claude Lemieux or Doug Gilmour over Marcel Dionne or Pavel Bure any day.
I don't think CA agrees with the selection of Dany Heatley to your all-star team.
For my part, I'm happy you recognized what a great tournament Demitra had. Also, I watched a lot of Fin games, and I can't help but marvel how effective Selanne still is in international hockey at 38 or whatever he is.
Lastly, imo Team Canada's all-star team was: Getzlaf, Toews and Nash Keith and Doughty
As angry as CA is with your selection of Heatley to your all star team, I'm very pissed at the love affair with Scott Niedermeyer. He shouldn't have been named to the team, had a terrible tournament, was turn-stiled repeatedly, and was terrible in the second and third periods of the gold medal game, never mind what the idiot talking heads say.
The only time he was effective was when Canada was trailing in a game and at 4-on-4.
I did the Olympic roster by position and what they played throughout the tournament so it was hard to create the perfect team as some guys got left off.
As for Heatley on LW, I will admit I was really torn and while sitting their and planning that short article I changed my Lw several times. I really liked Rick Nash as his line shuffle seamed to give Canada that extra jump that it needed, but before that he was struggling for half of it. Another guy I liked a lot and was the player I jumped between was Niklas Hagman who had a really good tournament and scored some timely goals. His down side was he couldn't score in games agains't major opponents. Who does that leave on the left? Ovechkin? The guy I may have overlooked is Zach Parise where most of his points were against weaker opponents. I thought Heatleys line was one of the most exciting for Canada. Yes Heatley is a one dimentional guy but so was Brett Hull. Heatley has one job to score and thats it, he did it. It isn't a beauty competition. Maybe Heatley didn't come up in the end of the tournament but he was on the board against the US the 1st time around, and in on the two only goals against the Swiss who Canada struggled with. If they lost that game things could have been a lot different. You are right about Heatley not being the best all round thats for damn sure but he does what he does. He isn't the nicest to watch but he puts up numbers and this games all about numbers in the end. Nobody wants to watch a defensive game. He by far isn't the best in the world not even close, hes just good at one thing and one thing only. If I were to retrack my pick I'd pick zach Parise.
Mr. Toews was left off because Pavol Demitra was Slovakia. They both played incredible for their country and all the little things Demitra on the ice stood out. It was hard not to pick him. Toews was great and does deserve a ton of recognition especially for his plus minus (tied with Ryan Suter) but he only logged in at 102 minutes while Demitra had 140 minutes almost 2 more periods than Toews. Toews played on a team stacked with talent, and was only limited in situations. Bergeron did most of the key draws for Canada. Demitra played in every situation and Demitra pretty much put his nations offense on his shoulders. 3 points in the Bronze medal game against Finland(In on every goal 3 of 3), another 3 to knock out Sweden (3 of 4), got an assist against Russia (1 of 1), and 1 assist against the Czechs (1 of 1). If you total up his points he has 10 points out of 21 total goals. Toews had 8 out of 32 which is still really good. According to the offical Olympic site Demitra won the scoring by a point over Marian Hossa. Toews finished 4th because Zach Parise had one less game. Once again still really amazing. My point is Demitra was the goto guy in Slovakia, and a main reason why they did so well.
Ovechkin was very overated in the Olympics that's 100%, even embarassing would be a good way to describe it. Ovechkin still has a lot of growing up to do unlike Crosby who actually acts like a leader.
On the Crosby note, yes he did score one of Canada's most important and heroic goals in history but all tournament he wasn't the superstar he should have been and only came out in 1 big game. If you look at Canada's only loss Crosby was on the ice for the 1st 3 of US's goals including go ahead, and game tying. The guy is incredibly talented but he had a below average tournament for a guy who many believe is the best in the world. I love the guy and he is clutch especially in the Swiss game but sadly I belive it was an awful tournament for him and if it wasn't for the Gold winner he'd be ripper apart.....But then again winning is everything and that goal was the goal that ended the entire tournament so!
To Jalen, I agree the Finnish Flash is still incredible. I can't believe he still has that kind of talent at 38. I too am disapointed by the performance of Canada's longtime hockey heros and suposed to be best defenseman on the team. He didn't look good at all. him and Pronger both showed their age.
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Scoopz,
I am tempted to abandon my readership of this site after reading your Olympic All-Star team. Dany Heatley? DANY ****ING HEATLEY?!?!?! He was an absolute joke in these Olympics. I've never seen a lazier skater in my life. His defensive play was atrocious. All he does is float around with his stick waving in the air waiting for someone to load the cannon. He was the worst player on the ice in the gold medal game.
Scoopz, I know you love looking at goals and assists... but come on!He had the most uninspired 7 points I've ever seen. He was one of only 3 players to finish the tourney without a positive +/- rating, along with Jumbo Joe and Bergeron. Anybody can win a goal- mouth scramble, even this bum. I'm sick and tired of this guy being mentioned as one of the best players in hockey. This is done by people who read his stats the next day instead of watching the game and seeing the continued incompetent play all over the ice by Heatley.
Did you not see Jonathan Toews this tournament?? He was awesome all over the ice. Finished tied for the Olympic scoring lead and ran away with the plus/minus lead. More importantly, he was the most consistent player every game for Canada and stepped up when asked. How can you leave this guy off?
Why don't you just throw Ovechkin on there? He's the best player in the world isn't he? He came through when asked in the big game right? Wait a sec, no he disappeared in the big game like he has his whole career. That doesn't matter though, cause media and fans alike look at the G and A columns and don't watch hockey anymore. The guy hasn't won anything because he doesn't know how to feed a team. It's his show, all the time. Who cares if I stay on the ice for 3 minutes straight, I'm Alex f***ing Ovechkin! Oh the other team scored because I'm too tired to backcheck? Who cares, I'm the face of Russian hockey. I'll score later in the game in a solo effort and it won't be my fault if we lose.
Fans and media have to cut up "under-achieving" Canadians all the time to sell newspapers and look hockey-smart in bars. I don't care if Ovechkin and Heatley can shoot 100 mph, that isn't what hockey is all about, they're overrated. I don't expect anyone to agree with me on these points, I just want people to start noticing how guys like Heatley and Ovechkin are always washing their hands of their respective teams failures, and guys like Crosby step up in the clutch. I'll take Claude Lemieux or Doug Gilmour over Marcel Dionne or Pavel Bure any day.
CA
Scoopz,
I don't think CA agrees with the selection of Dany Heatley to your all-star team.
For my part, I'm happy you recognized what a great tournament Demitra had. Also, I watched a lot of Fin games, and I can't help but marvel how effective Selanne still is in international hockey at 38 or whatever he is.
Lastly, imo Team Canada's all-star team was:
Getzlaf, Toews and Nash
Keith and Doughty
As angry as CA is with your selection of Heatley to your all star team, I'm very pissed at the love affair with Scott Niedermeyer. He shouldn't have been named to the team, had a terrible tournament, was turn-stiled repeatedly, and was terrible in the second and third periods of the gold medal game, never mind what the idiot talking heads say.
The only time he was effective was when Canada was trailing in a game and at 4-on-4.
- Jalen
I did the Olympic roster by position and what they played throughout the tournament so it was hard to create the perfect team as some guys got left off.
As for Heatley on LW, I will admit I was really torn and while sitting their and planning that short article I changed my Lw several times. I really liked Rick Nash as his line shuffle seamed to give Canada that extra jump that it needed, but before that he was struggling for half of it. Another guy I liked a lot and was the player I jumped between was Niklas Hagman who had a really good tournament and scored some timely goals. His down side was he couldn't score in games agains't major opponents. Who does that leave on the left? Ovechkin? The guy I may have overlooked is Zach Parise where most of his points were against weaker opponents. I thought Heatleys line was one of the most exciting for Canada. Yes Heatley is a one dimentional guy but so was Brett Hull. Heatley has one job to score and thats it, he did it. It isn't a beauty competition. Maybe Heatley didn't come up in the end of the tournament but he was on the board against the US the 1st time around, and in on the two only goals against the Swiss who Canada struggled with. If they lost that game things could have been a lot different. You are right about Heatley not being the best all round thats for damn sure but he does what he does. He isn't the nicest to watch but he puts up numbers and this games all about numbers in the end. Nobody wants to watch a defensive game. He by far isn't the best in the world not even close, hes just good at one thing and one thing only. If I were to retrack my pick I'd pick zach Parise.
Mr. Toews was left off because Pavol Demitra was Slovakia. They both played incredible for their country and all the little things Demitra on the ice stood out. It was hard not to pick him. Toews was great and does deserve a ton of recognition especially for his plus minus (tied with Ryan Suter) but he only logged in at 102 minutes while Demitra had 140 minutes almost 2 more periods than Toews. Toews played on a team stacked with talent, and was only limited in situations. Bergeron did most of the key draws for Canada. Demitra played in every situation and Demitra pretty much put his nations offense on his shoulders. 3 points in the Bronze medal game against Finland(In on every goal 3 of 3), another 3 to knock out Sweden (3 of 4), got an assist against Russia (1 of 1), and 1 assist against the Czechs (1 of 1). If you total up his points he has 10 points out of 21 total goals. Toews had 8 out of 32 which is still really good. According to the offical Olympic site Demitra won the scoring by a point over Marian Hossa. Toews finished 4th because Zach Parise had one less game. Once again still really amazing. My point is Demitra was the goto guy in Slovakia, and a main reason why they did so well.
Ovechkin was very overated in the Olympics that's 100%, even embarassing would be a good way to describe it. Ovechkin still has a lot of growing up to do unlike Crosby who actually acts like a leader.
On the Crosby note, yes he did score one of Canada's most important and heroic goals in history but all tournament he wasn't the superstar he should have been and only came out in 1 big game. If you look at Canada's only loss Crosby was on the ice for the 1st 3 of US's goals including go ahead, and game tying. The guy is incredibly talented but he had a below average tournament for a guy who many believe is the best in the world. I love the guy and he is clutch especially in the Swiss game but sadly I belive it was an awful tournament for him and if it wasn't for the Gold winner he'd be ripper apart.....But then again winning is everything and that goal was the goal that ended the entire tournament so!
To Jalen, I agree the Finnish Flash is still incredible. I can't believe he still has that kind of talent at 38. I too am disapointed by the performance of Canada's longtime hockey heros and suposed to be best defenseman on the team. He didn't look good at all. him and Pronger both showed their age.
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